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Feminism, choices, and children [Dec. 5th, 2007|12:18 am]
Child Free: Feminism


Apparently I've pissed off someone on my flist for suggesting that not all single mothers are perfect saints and that having babies you can't afford is a bad idea. (I won't name her to avoid possible trolling and/or wank.) This came during a discussion about the meaning of feminism and whether identifying as "feminist" means that you have to support every stupid thing a woman does because she's a woman. She said no, but when I said that I don't support women having babies just because they can, especially when they can't afford them or want special treatment for having them, I got called a "conservative" and basically flamed.

So here's my question: we all know that feminism means being about the right to make choices. But does it mean that we have to support even the stupid or reckless choices? As women, we all have the right to have children; shouldn't we also have the duty to use that right responsibly? We all know that it takes two to create a child. Unfortunately, since only the woman can get pregnant, she has to shoulder a greater burden of the responsibity to prevent or raise a child - it's not fair, but life generally isn't. And let's face it, one woman's decision to have a child she can't afford and needs welfare to support, or to demand special privileges at work (time off, reduced workload) because she has kids, affects all of us. Should we have to shoulder the extra burden without complaint because we're feminists and it's for the chyylldrun and besides, it's her choice? Or do we have the right to say "Grow up and stop being a dumbass - it's not all about you"? To me, it's kind of like this: You have the right to own cats. But when you take in more cats than you can afford to feed and expect me to pay extra taxes to supply your cat food, or when I have to double my workload because you have to leave early every other day to take the kitties to playgroup, I should have the right to say "Maybe you shouldn't have so many cats." Why should it be different when we're talking about kids?

What are your thoughts on the subject?

X-posted to cf_hardcore

[User Picture]From: fountainoffilth
2007-12-05 04:43 pm (UTC)
I don't think we should support women making stupid or reckless choices.
Women SHOULD be responsible about when and with whom they reproduce with--like someone who can be a supportive co-parent, instead of some deadbeat who skips town the second the stick turns blue.

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[User Picture]From: pitbullgirl65
2007-12-05 06:01 pm (UTC)
This is why I don't call myself a feminist anymore. I prefer the term equalist. Feminism is basically now saying we are "superior" because we are the nuturing, gentle sex. And we can bear children. Ugh, that puts us right back to sqaure one: our power rests in our utertus, NOT in our mind and attitude. Also, I happen to love men, and do not think that they are the enemy. Hell some of the worst offenders against womens rights are other women Phillus Shaffly anyone? Oh and yes, I do not want to support anyones child with some baby-daddy.
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